CRN
Does anyone have experience at applying for a CRN (Canadian Registration Number) for Cat C valves/Balance Valves that are B16.34 design but are made from a material that is not listed in B16.34?
I know that there are two options:
1) Burst Proof Test witness by Third Party
2) Detailed engineering Calculations
Question: What exactly do they mean by Detailed Engineering Calculations?
My guess is that you are dealing with ABSA, which can be quite a challenge.
ABSA
is responsible for the administration and delivery of safety programs
related to boilers, pressure vessels and pressure piping systems in the
province of Alberta, Canada. In that ABSA's requirements are the most
stringent in Canada, seeking a CRN issued through ABSA is often the best
choice, because once you have an ABSA issued CRN, the submission to the
remaining provinces can refer to the ABSA CRN. While the other
provinces are not required to issue a CRN on this basis (because they
have their own law) they often will defer to ABSA's rigorous
requrements.
I've not personally submitted a valve design package
that included materials that were not shown in ASME B16.34, but I did
discuss the issue with them, and the outlook
is not too promising. The issue at its core is that ABSA will not look
past recognized codes when performing their survey of a design. It's
important to note that "recognized code" are codes recognized by ABSA,
no one else. For example, ASBA do not recognize ASME VIII Division 2,
because it is alternate rules for pressure vessel design. I've
submitted flange design calculations in accordance to 2007 ASME VIII D2
paragraph 4.16, only to have them rejected on the basis that D2 provides
alternate rules which are not recognized by ABSA.
This being
said, my advice to you, for you material selection, is to find an
internationally recognized design code (that ABSA recognizes) that
provides pressure and temperature ratings for your material
selection. If such a design code does not exist, you will have to make a
selection from ASME B16.34. If you do not, ABSA will continue to
reject your design.
To your question regarding what is meant by
"detailed engineering calculations". In my experience with ABSA, since
their charter is essentially to provide engineering survey of pressure
vessels and piping systems, for the purpose of public safety, they are
only concerned with pressure containment. They do not care a bit about
valve performacne,
or leakage rates, or stem thrust/torsion, only pressure
containment. So, the detailed engineering calculations you should
provide are only those related to pressure containment. Wall thickness,
bolting end-load, bonnet bolting, weldment design for fabricated
products, etc. If your stat dec does not state full compliance to ASME
B16.34, which yours may or may not, depending on your final material
selection and the rest of your valve design, ABSA will require you to
provide Finite Element Analysis of the pressure boundary (to prove your
proprietary design), including all welded or bolted joints. If your
design has a flanged connection, as in a bonnet flange, and that flange
is not in compliance with ASME B16.5 or ASME B16.47, then the FEA will
have to include the flange design as well. (Yes, this implies that ABSA
expects bonnet flanges to meet ASME B16.5/16.47 because these are known
and proven designs.) ABSA provides details on their requirements for
FEA at the link provided below.
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